>> i think governor romney would be better for the economy. so i don't think -- near term, there's not much either president is going to do. >> why would he be better? >> pardon me? >> why would he be better, do you think? >> well, i think we've had four years of very sluggish economic growth. i think governor romney understands the economy. he's been in the business world. i think he would be a big boost of confidence. >> let me pursue what you said earlier about the economy. you see it going sideways. is that globally? is that just the united states? is it internationally? bear in mind, last night we heard from alcoa and klaus kleinfeld seeing a decline in demand for aluminum internationally. what about what you're seeing right now economically? >> we're seeing north america, the united states basically flat. that feels sideways. europe is down a bit, but our business in europe is heavily tilted to eastern europe and includes russia. our business is actually up in russia and eastern europe. brazil feels like the united states. china, i think